Thursday, February 16, 2012

Deborah Feldman

Deborah Feldman's new book is out. I could use a copy (hint hint). I have not had the chance yet to read the book, and I'm ashamed to admit I haven't even watched her numerous interviews on the View, CNN, etc. I will get around to that shortly. It seems there is a lot of controversy. The Orthodox world is, of course, angry that she bashes their world. Even among the ex-Orthodox she has quite a few detractors, and the main argument I get from that side is her story about a kid who had his head sawed off (is that right?) may have in fact been a suicide rather than a homicide. I don't know. I think it's okay to question her story, and if this one does turn out to be an exaggeration, she should take flak for it.

That said, I'm very happy that she has written the book. She brings a lot of publicity to the OTD world that really wasn't there before. Bottom line, there are not many published OTD authors who discuss OTDness in particular, and she has achieved substantial success at the young age of 25. I say congratulations, and I hope when the dust settles she will be vindicated. Besides, some of the criticism directed at her strikes me as of the petty and jealous sort, and I'd hate to see the OTD world divided over such minor issues.

15 comments:

  1. My email to Simon and Schuster:


    Perhaps you people should have looked at the the Twerskys and countless other Chassidim and Orthodox individuals worldwide, who have become huge successes careerwise, through their intellect, hard work and education, who are serving humanity in many arenas, some doctors, some lawyers, psychiatrists, judges, scientists, actuaries, authors, politicians, etc.

    There is no field in the US and beyond where Chassidim and Orthodox individuals have not become successful, where the world at large hasnt benefitted from their brainpower and expertise. And this is with their 4th grade education, according to DF- ho ho. At the same time, they have no desire or interest or thought to leave Chassidism or Orthodoxy behind.

    Believe it or not the above didnt need that 150 or so member organization, that Ms Feldman speaks of fondly, laden with social misfits and shlemazels to straighten out their minds and guide them in life and offer them vocational advice in addition to "everything goes" sex education, etc.

    Some do obviously. Once theyre out in the secular world all morals die for many. The cancer of immorality and the everything goes in the name of enlightenment mindset, takes over. Not with everyone though.

    Simon & Shoemaker, shes NOT the first Chassidic individual to have gone to college!!!! You chose HER to tell HER story and thereby represent successful Chassidim????? You people are living in the dark ages! Shame on you!!!

    PS- In the future, check your details and sources before going to print, you and her have been outed!

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  2. To Simon and Schuster:

    Re: Deborah Feldman and Unorthodox


    Perhaps you people should have looked at the the Twerskys and countless other Chassidim and Orthodox individuals worldwide, who have become huge successes careerwise, through their intellect, hard work and education, who are serving humanity in many arenas, some doctors, some lawyers, psychiatrists, judges, scientists, actuaries, authors, politicians, etc.,

    There is no field in the US and beyond where Chassidim and Orthodox individuals have not become successful, where the world at large hasnt benefitted from their brainpower and expertise. And this is with their 4th grade education, according to DF- ho ho. At the same time, they have no desire or interest or thought to leave Chassidism or Orthodoxy behind.

    Believe it or not the above didnt need that 150 or so member organization, that Ms Feldman speaks of fondly, laden with social misfits and shlemazels to straighten out their minds and guide them in life and offer them vocational advice in addition to "everything goes" sex education, etc.

    Some do obviously. Once theyre out in the secular world all morals die for many. The cancer of immorality and the everything goes in the name of enlightenment mindset, takes over. Not with everyone though.

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    1. so because some people (and by people I mean men) are successful when they are chassidic that means we discount people who were miserable and found the lifestyle repressive, and they should just shut up about it?

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    2. Well said, AE! Adittionally, how many Hassidim are encouraged to get higher education nowadays? How many more Twerskies will there be in the future? Feldman wasn't critiquing Orthodoxy or even Hassidism, per se. She was relating her personal struggle to fit into the Satmar world. In my opinion, many of the accusations regarding lies in the text are because it is deliberately taken out of context in order to create false accusations of "blood libel." This has successfully served to distract from the many points she does bring out about intolerance and extremism within that community that are irrefutable.

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  3. Ok, I hear you.

    ONE (ONLY ONE) of the clear differences between those who stayed and those who didnt is the feeling that immorality (multiple partners throughout ones life) is not neccesarily a bad thing, rather than doing ones best to stay with one partner throughout ones life, which most religious people do.

    Go ahead, tell me that it isnt.

    How many irreligious people stay with one partner throughout their whole lifetime?

    Go ahead, tell me that most religious men have girlfriends behind the scenes.

    Thats where we part company.

    Gotta go, Good Shabbos. That's not too repressive for me either.

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  4. New blog exposes many of Feldman’s lies http://goo.gl/jv2Ct.

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  5. > the feeling that immorality (multiple partners throughout ones life)

    So anyone who has a second marriage is immoral?

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  6. I managed to snag the last copy at the store. It's a pretty good read, not so great that you can't wait a few days or weeks to read it. "Unorthodox" is really not as sensationalist as some of the articles surrounding its release make it out to be. As to the murder rumor, I have no idea whether it's true or not. The book just relays it is as a gossip she heard from her ex-husband, who heard it from his borther, a Hatzolah volunteer. Given the numerous scandals that have been covered up in many right wing Orthodox communities, I would say it's plausible that and event like that murder could happen.

    You should probably remove Feldman's old blogs from your blogroll. The domain names have been taken over by pissed off frummies.

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  7. FOR ALL OTDERS - here is your chance to speak your mind on the issue of divorce. If you don't believe in the orthodox system of divorce, come to the poll on top of my blog and select "Divorce should be a private matter between the man and woman involved, and the woman should be able to issue a divorce also so that both the man and the woman can move on with their lives." Of course if you are an orthodox douscheface, you can feel free to select the other option. ROFLMAO

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  8. Her lies bring *negative* attention to the OTD world, in my opinion, because it makes it look like people who are OTD are messed up liars who exaggerate whatever negative their might be just to draw attention to themselves and justify themselves. She really does a disservice.

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  9. SJ,

    Are all Orthodox people douchfaces, you foul-mouthed bigot, or only the ones who displease you, or do they all displease you?

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  10. "So anyone who has a second marriage is immoral"?

    No, G*3, anyone who is comfortable having multiple partners OUTSIDE of marriage.

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  11. Learn how to take a joke, douscheface. XD

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